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CA ORRIN WEST & ORSON WEST: Missing from California City, CA - 21 Dec 2020 - Age 3 & 4 *GUILTY*

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So heartbroken for their children and especially oldest son. For a child to tell the truth about such a thing, I can only believe parents were not good parents in general but that something or someone made him a more moral person than his parents.
 
There is alot of adoption, Fostering for a check every month. It is sickening!!! I swear it's the truth, When I say someone suggested to me that I foster years ago. "You'll get a check". I said...I am on permanent disability. I can't take care of myself!!! The rest I said to them I can't say here. But summarily, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
 
Mel70 said:
There is alot of adoption, Fostering for a check every month. It is sickening!!! I swear it's the truth, When I say someone suggested to me that I foster years ago. "You'll get a check". I said...I am on permanent disability. I can't take care of myself!!! The rest I said to them I can't say here. But summarily, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
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Yeah and states get more money for pushing more adoptions which creates as much financial benefit and atmosphere for wrongdoing as being paid for adoption and fostering, etc. does for "parents". It's amazing how hard it is to find these facts re adoption particularly. I searched hard during this case for info on such as so many believed there is no profit or money in adopting. It is difficult to find but there are benefits, hence that California case of the female couple, one of which at least killed the whole family plunging into the ocean. They lived in MN and other places as they moved around. The Clintons put this awful funding and rules into place re adoption and it was largely unknown to the public. Still is I believe to many.

Jacqueline said about $4,000 a month and that it is better money than her being an artist or Trezelle a music producer brings in. Well I imagine since I don't think either made anything at their "so called" careers. More like fantasies they likely didn't even work at. Doubt she ever sold a piece of art work and he, well, no, just playing they were both imo while collecting to live a "free" life by taking in and neglecting/abusing imo children to get the funds.
 
In Plunder she says right out that in California especially lots of money to be made for people that go into it without the purest intentions (fostering and adopting). Yep. Old Cali just is something else. I don't know why grades only go A through F because Cali deserves a Z- (minus).
 
There is audio but it is not to be recorded or shared I gather. I BELIEVE this is where it can be followed, on the Kern County website.

Metro Division Dpt 4 Audio Streaming | Superior Court of California | County of Kern

Metro Division - Department 4 Audio Streaming Users of the Court’s audio streaming service are reminded of the general prohibition against the photographing, recording, and rebroadcasting of court proceedings (including those held by telephone or videoconference). See California Rule of Court
www.kern.courts.ca.gov www.kern.courts.ca.gov
 
GrandmaBear said:
There is audio but it is not to be recorded or shared I gather. I BELIEVE this is where it can be followed, on the Kern County website.

Metro Division Dpt 4 Audio Streaming | Superior Court of California | County of Kern

Metro Division - Department 4 Audio Streaming Users of the Court’s audio streaming service are reminded of the general prohibition against the photographing, recording, and rebroadcasting of court proceedings (including those held by telephone or videoconference). See California Rule of Court
www.kern.courts.ca.gov www.kern.courts.ca.gov
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I think she also said that KGEB(?) has a LOT on its Twitter with this case.
 
Kimster said:
@kgetnews

I looked over their Twitter and didn’t see anything, but I didn’t scroll down forever. They probably have one of their reporters assigned to the case. That would be the Twitter to follow.
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OK I found the right hashtag to follow:

#weststrial

Looks like the reporting directly from their own Twitter and not from a reporter.
 
I don't do Twitter or understand hashtags or how you follow that way. I know, I'm not up on things.

Hoping to count on others sharing such.

Not sure if I believe Grandma West or not but it is startling that apparently Jacqueline's mom didn't even know the boys' names or of them or so it sounds.

Plundr covered a lot about the interviews of the Wests which i don't think I ever have hard previously. These things are apparently coming out now. I have little doubt in my own opinion and mind that these boys were never loved and were abused. I have little doubt it was ALL about the money.

It is heartbreaking to know they were separated, Jacqueline said they kept them separated, the brothers. I'd like to know how you do that or how even you could keep them separated in from what I understood was a two bedroom apartment with two adults and six children in it.

To go back to rumors, I recall hearing there was more than one apartment and that her mom was the manager of the complex and lived there too... LE has never verified this or anything but these things I believe came from other residents...

Trezell said the one boy cried ALL of the time. I don't believe anything perps say but this could be true and I'm sure there was good reason.

These two are monsters.

Whatever may or may not have happened in the bio family, this was all wrong and done wrong and these two NEVER should have had a chance to have all these kids. There is no basis for it at all unless all with this agency in California has NO decent rules or approval process and I don't think they do. What I do know is this, there are TONS of pictures of these boys happy, laughing, healthy and enjoying life UNTIL wrenched from their family. After that, not a SINGLE picture that doesn't cause doubt and concern, not a single clearly happy picture. Nor ones where they look very healthy or taken care of either, but definitely not happy nor seeming secure.

Renaming them. Trezell says it changes a child's behavior when renamed. WHERE is it he gets this? I would assume he means it generally does for the better or they wouldn't do it... This was his answer to that.

We are missing a LOT. I knew the trial was imminent but hadn't realized it started. I am going to be in a similar boat with Vallow and Stauch as I was with Murdaugh where I'll be lucky if I can catch a recap somewhere.

Oh the one child said his parents told him one of the boys went back to where he/they used to live. Plundr took this to mean heaven. I however do wonder if it means something else. Hard to say. Probably not a shred of truth in it but perhaps...

Anyhow, just rambling... I'll stop. I pray for justice here!
 
I did hear something about jury selection being planned, then a pause, then trial but didn't they do opening statements too? That made me think they were going ahead instead of pausing. You'd think you'd want that fresh with the rest of the trial and testimony.
 
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