CA KIELY RODNI: Missing from a campground in Truckee, CA - 6 August 2022 - Age 16 *Found Deceased*

Police investigate possible abduction of 16-year-old girl who disappeared from campground party

Detectives in Northern California have launched an abduction investigation after a 16-year-old girl vanished from a large party Saturday.

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Kiely Rodni was last seen attending "a party of more than 100 juveniles and young adults" near the Prosser Family Campground in Truckee, California, at 12:30 a.m. Saturday, according to the Placer County Sheriff's Office. Also missing from the party was Rodni's car, a silver 2013 Honda CRV.

Her phone has been out of service since the party, authorities said. At a news conference Tuesday, Placer County Sheriff's Sgt. Scott Alford said her phone last sent data at 12:33 a.m. Saturday

KIELY RODNI: Missing from a campground in Truckee, CA since 6 August 2022 - Age 16

Kiely Rodni was last seen attending "a party of more than 100 juveniles and young adults" near the Prosser Family Campground in Truckee, California, at 12:30 a.m. Saturday, according to the Placer County Sheriff's Office. Also missing from the...

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[Guess Who]

Yeah true in some cases but sounds doubtful in this one. I am going by what he said would have to happen and the time to reach what little tiny corner of air there would be to get to that point in the back isn't very likely or so it sounds to me. And we are talking almost nothing for a space, she'd have to almost be face up with nothing but an inch or so if that. Hold your breath from front to back, get out of driver's seat, maneuver, turn, get over seats AND find a centimeter or inch of a pocket by then not likely and all with being able to hold breath while accomplishing all this.

I also keep in mind that they confirmed she was in the car so they also sighted her I gather. No idea if the way she was found or in what state or position adds to doubts...

At no time in this case thus far have I been convinced one way or the other of what occurred.

Time of day is HUGE imo as well.

I was leaning towards the party exodus was due to the fight or kids knowing the car went into the water or she did but if her car was responded to in a roadside assistance call later then I am wondering about a different scenario of what happened after the alleged fight...

Not convinced of anything but I am convinced far more than one question remains here and it isn't only the question of her being in the back of the vehicle. Neutral is just as huge if true.

The neutral I can also kind of explain with my personal incident. He tried to put the car in reverse when we remembered the water was over the road, but only got to neutral because the car wouldn't let him put it in reverse with the forward momentum we had. No time to do anything else after that because we were in the water by that time. That car was also in neutral when we left it. We had to set the parking brake after we pushed it as far to the shore as we could so it wouldn't roll back in further. (it wouldn't let us put it in gear after neutral because the car had died in the water and had to be running to put in gear)

 

[GrandmaBear]

The neutral I can also kind of explain with my personal incident. He tried to put the car in reverse when we remembered the water was over the road, but only got to neutral because the car wouldn't let him put it in reverse with the forward momentum we had. No time to do anything else after that because we were in the water by that time. That car was also in neutral when we left it. We had to set the parking brake after we pushed it as far to the shore as we could so it wouldn't roll back in further. (it wouldn't let us put it in gear after neutral because the car had died in the water and had to be running to put in gear)

Again I get it if there is time at all but not so sure here... Maybe if she instantly tried the minute she hit water or off shore to reverse but it so sounds like this would have been so immediate with that window open that the normal precious extra bit of time the car is buoyant wouldn't have existed.

I could maybe more easily believe she was trying to park it near the water with neutral and then the car gained a bit of downhill roll, but I don't can't even see that.

One thing on its own wouldn't give me a lot of pause but the things added together do... And then thinking of the water pressure and forces in the car with an open window I don't know...

If we reverse this instead of thinking of the most innocent thing first, an accident, then one can fit easily foul play with all of these factors... In that scenario, all make sense easily. In the accident scenario, there are questions.

I also stay to the most likely in cases but things/facts change it... In this case with the facts (if they are indeed facts) the most likely isn't an accident.

I'll tell you also the water in the lungs I see no reason to hold the info with all of the speculation going on and see no way it would harm the case.

They did an initial autopsy immediately.

MAYBE just until they ensure no foul play they will wait and be sure the initial results are accurate but I would think we'd be hearing something pretty soon if this is an accident. At least a few preliminary things.

Who knows but again there is a lot here that is questionable.

Parties. Lies. Plans. Fights. Stories not aligning. Time frame not adding up. Minors. Strangers. Drugs. Alcohol. Then add in these other things, the tow truck, neutral, she was in the back, the cops couldn't find her (and I get that often happens but when coupled with other things....) and a lot more.

Just saying I can't put this one "to bed" yet.

 

[GrandmaBear]

And key to it all is the partially open window changes the time frame and every single thing the car does with air, water entry and pressure almost immediately. That's a key thing I took away from that video...

If anyone hasn't watched it, I do recommend this one.

 

[Regina]

There would still be air in the very back by the back window and that is where they often find victims in cars underwater. Not saying nothing happened to her that was not of her own doing, but that part alone does not mean anything but the way they are often found.

Apparently, AWP are failing to inform that where she was found is actually usual in the circumstance of an unseat-belted body.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Apparently, AWP are failing to inform that where she was found is actually usual in the circumstance of an unseat-belted body.

I don't know but do know there is a lot of controversy and I haven't had a lot of time.

I know the family and/or PI allegedly wasn't happy with them but that was touched on in the video too...

Lots of bs in this case and "types" and "trolls" coming in and then one has Ryan Upchurch coming in, etc.

I go a bit both ways about AWP... In no way can I deny they provide answers, find bodies, don't charge the families etc. but there are other things that have bothered me on occasion with them... They are not quite frankly the only search and rescue or donating time kind of team or charity I have felt that way about...

I went into this video with a bit of that opinion and he sure is making the rounds onto all YT channels, etc. but they DID find her and some of the points seem very valid. I have even considered the tow story is not all fact etc. and where did that guy come from and why but that seems to be explained.

Trust me if I found out anything was a hoax or publicity stunt, etc., I'll be the first to come down on it and I do have a side of me that doesn't buy it all 100 percent...

You do know she was in the "hatchback" area and not the back seat right? I guess in time maybe that could happen... That's something that I didn't hear touched on but with floating or gravity you mean...?

There is a LOT of bull out there and so I have to figure one would think AWP would know what they are talking about as they do this for a living or is it being hyped ro create drama you think....?

 

[Guess Who]

Again I get it if there is time at all but not so sure here... Maybe if she instantly tried the minute she hit water or off shore to reverse but it so sounds like this would have been so immediate with that window open that the normal precious extra bit of time the car is buoyant wouldn't have existed.

I could maybe more easily believe she was trying to park it near the water with neutral and then the car gained a bit of downhill roll, but I don't can't even see that.

One thing on its own wouldn't give me a lot of pause but the things added together do... And then thinking of the water pressure and forces in the car with an open window I don't know...

If we reverse this instead of thinking of the most innocent thing first, an accident, then one can fit easily foul play with all of these factors... In that scenario, all make sense easily. In the accident scenario, there are questions.

I also stay to the most likely in cases but things/facts change it... In this case with the facts (if they are indeed facts) the most likely isn't an accident.

I'll tell you also the water in the lungs I see no reason to hold the info with all of the speculation going on and see no way it would harm the case.

They did an initial autopsy immediately.

MAYBE just until they ensure no foul play they will wait and be sure the initial results are accurate but I would think we'd be hearing something pretty soon if this is an accident. At least a few preliminary things.

Who knows but again there is a lot here that is questionable.

Parties. Lies. Plans. Fights. Stories not aligning. Time frame not adding up. Minors. Strangers. Drugs. Alcohol. Then add in these other things, the tow truck, neutral, she was in the back, the cops couldn't find her (and I get that often happens but when coupled with other things....) and a lot more.

Just saying I can't put this one "to bed" yet.

I am sure they are waiting for tox to get back before they are saying anything...as it should be.

 

[Guess Who]

Apparently, AWP are failing to inform that where she was found is actually usual in the circumstance of an unseat-belted body.

Exactly! And they are going on to say that it was "unusual" when actually it is the most common place to find somebody that was trying to get out, but couldn't for what ever reason.

 

[Regina]

There is a LOT of bull out there and so I have to figure one would think AWP would know what they are talking about as they do this for a living or is it being hyped ro create drama you think....?

Well I wouldn't believe that they weren't well aware that their comments would only add to the drama that already existed, would you?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am sure they are waiting for tox to get back before they are saying anything...as it should be.

Maybe but I've seen other agencies provide the initial info and then say they are still awaiting tox for final conclusion, etc. Seems to just depend on case and agency. And I think the speculation in the meantime isn't necessarily going to be good and if there does end up being foul play there will be a lot of publicity and opinion already out there.

Even so, each agency does it their way and we may just have to wait.

They will have a field day out there though while the answers are waited for...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Exactly! And they are going on to say that it was "unusual" when actually it is the most common place to find somebody that was trying to get out, but couldn't for what ever reason.

Again if even true she had the kind of time to do that or get that far but yes, it could be, I simply took their word for it but I have had my moments with them.

What source says it is the most common place to find them when a window is partially open on entry? That may make me rethink things.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well I wouldn't believe that they weren't well aware that their comments would only add to the drama that already existed, would you?

No and I have an opinion of some of their cases and ways so I do give that pause. They also are out there making the circuit and going onto EVERY YT channel and the channels mostly are tickled of course to have the guys that found her on and donations and subscribers are rolling in too....

So I do think of all that and have from the start, however, they do know their stuff too...

 

[Regina]

Exactly! And they are going on to say that it was "unusual" when actually it is the most common place to find somebody that was trying to get out, but couldn't for what ever reason.

Right?! And fyi, I've heard the one guy, Doug, inform LE (this was in a prior incident) of that very info.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Right?! And fyi, I've heard the one guy, Doug, inform LE (this was in a prior incident) of that very info.

A vehicle with a hatchback and not just a back seat and with a window open on entry? I am not doubting, just trying to get the likelihoods in different scenarios.

I haven't looked for anything since watching that video and that was a couple of days old and maybe more is out than we know, I have no idea. OR speculation has become worse.

 

[Regina]

No and I have an opinion of some of their cases and ways so I do give that pause. They also are out there making the circuit and going onto EVERY YT channel and the channels mostly are tickled of course to have the guys that found her on and donations and subscribers are rolling in too....

So I do think of all that and have from the start, however, they do know their stuff too...

Oh, there was absolutely no doubt in my mind that if the vehicle was submerged, they'd find it but subsequent to their having located it, how have they been helpful to LE, or, have they actually caused more pain for her loved ones?

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh, there was absolutely no doubt in my mind that if the vehicle was submerged, they'd find it but subsequent to their having located it, how have they been helpful to LE, or, have they actually causing more pain for her loved ones?

Yeah, true. They aren't the investigators, just find vehicles and bodies. And he said as much. I've never thought his "bedside" manner all that authentic but then again I try not to judge... And they definitely make money. They also though do provide something needed and the families don't pay so I'm middle of the road about that...

One of his initial guys left him for a reason... And hinted at some things like that.

No one is going to take away their roll they are on from this one though, too many people are latching on like they do to law enforcement, that type of people, like they are God's answer to the universe and the best thing ever.

I guess all I can say is what they do is well worthwhile and does help regardless of how it happens or what they say before, during or after. And I can't believe any family would not at least understand and want their loved one found as to that part. I also think families in fresh cases are in the throes of grief, anger, questions and more.

I just don't know. Like I said I am not all on board with anything nor any theory because too many questions remain.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm just basically saying thus far no answers have been forthcoming nor satisfied me as to what happened. And I truly don't see how anyone can be convinced of anything as there just isn't enough to come to a conclusion of thought as to what happened, how or why.

 

[Guess Who]

Again if even true she had the kind of time to do that or get that far but yes, it could be, I simply took their word for it but I have had my moments with them.

What source says it is the most common place to find them when a window is partially open on entry? That may make me rethink things.

That came out when they found the person near here in pretty much the same position. The place that did the search or LE (can't remember which) quashed the rumors about it explaining that was where they expected to find her if she wasn't belted in. Her parents were making a huge fuss online about it and that's when they said it's exactly where they expected to find her because that is the normal place to find them.

 

[Guess Who]

No and I have an opinion of some of their cases and ways so I do give that pause. They also are out there making the circuit and going onto EVERY YT channel and the channels mostly are tickled of course to have the guys that found her on and donations and subscribers are rolling in too....

So I do think of all that and have from the start, however, they do know their stuff too...

so creating drama to drive the revenue???

 

[Guess Who]

A vehicle with a hatchback and not just a back seat and with a window open on entry? I am not doubting, just trying to get the likelihoods in different scenarios.

I haven't looked for anything since watching that video and that was a couple of days old and maybe more is out than we know, I have no idea. OR speculation has become worse.

A hatchback is basically just a car with an open trunk and the air would be back there and that is exactly where most experienced divers would expect to find her per experienced divers. My jeep is basically a hatchback and it is no problem getting back there from the front seat IF you are unbuckled. Any of my windows opened would not affect the air still being in the very back. Maybe she was trying to open the hatchback, not knowing at 16 that most of the electrical components would not work after it went in the water.

 

[Regina]

A vehicle with a hatchback and not just a back seat and with a window open on entry? I am not doubting, just trying to get the likelihoods in different scenarios.

The scenarios are those in which the person wasn't found still wearing their seatbelt.