Wisconsin vs. Kyle Rittenhouse for murder in Kenosha *NOT GUILTY*

Defense Says Kyle Rittenhouse Was Attacked 'in the Street Like an Animal'

During opening statements on Tuesday, a defense attorney for Kenosha, Wis. shooter Kyle Rittenhouse characterized the teen who killed two people and injured a third during civil unrest in the summer of 2020 as someone who pulled the trigger only after others attacked him "in the street like an...

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[Cousin Dupree]

I was listening to a podcast about this trial last night and from what I gathered with the limited amount that I listened, I think this is going to be a mistrial. The people on the podcast seemed to think it was going to be a not guilty verdict and didn’t even consider the possibility of a mistrial, which kind of surprised me.

If he's found guilty the judge will rule a mistrial. I'm guessing he'll do it with prejudice, but should do it without prejudice.

 

[kdg411]

If he's found guilty the judge will rule a mistrial. I'm guessing he'll do it with prejudice, but should do it without prejudice.

Question .. from the bolded statement in your post, is this your opinion or fact? I just want to be clear. tia

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Question .. from the bolded statement in your post, is this your opinion or fact? I just want to be clear. tia

The judge said he will rule on the defenses request for a mistrial (due to the footage issue) if Kyle is found guilty. So that's just a guess.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Hmm. I truly don't know enough about this case nor watched to say a lot about many issues but what I have seen and read, media alone could have destroyed the case and jury trial process here or were sure trying to...

My home state is a pretty open records/open court state compared to many, things are mostly public, theoretically anyhow, like anywhere who you are, etc. can get things covered up and there are ways to have unfair proceedings, there are good and bad cops, attorneys, judges, etc. just like anywhere.

I don't like what media was doing during this trial or trying to do, or some of them anyhow, and whatever the opinion of anyone of the judge, I do fear this and maybe others will limit the likelihood of many judges, not just in Wisconsin, of televising trials to the public, etc., allowing media access and more. I don't want to see that happen.

The right thing to do would be to sanction harshly the media who do these things but we all know that seems to never happen and freedom of the press is one no politician likes to mess with and people get upset over... So it is more likely if judges, etc. can't stop it but can legally stop it being broadcast live, they are more apt to do so.

I sure don't want that.

 

[daisy7]

The judge said he will rule on the defenses request for a mistrial (due to the footage issue) if Kyle is found guilty. So that's just a guess.

I think the judge said he he will rule after a verdict is made, not that he would rule if Kyle was convicted. That's the way I understand it. JMO

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I think the judge said he he will rule after a verdict is made, not that he would rule if Kyle was convicted. That's the way I understand it. JMO

Nope, soon after I had written that, the news confirmed what I wrote.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

More info on the mistrial motions at the link. But yes. Essentially he'll only "need" to rule on the mistrial motions if there is a guilty verdict anyway.

Will there be a mistrial in the Kyle Rittenhouse case? Here's what it would mean

Kyle Rittenhouse's defense team has asked for two different types of mistrials, one that would prevent him from being tried again

www.usatoday.com

He said he would allow the jury to continue its deliberations but said the mistrial request will have to be addressed if there is a guilty verdict.


All in all, Kim said it’s a little unusual for a judge to wait for a verdict before ruling on a mistrial request: “I think he just kind of wanted to see where the cards fall, because depending on what the verdict is, that may let him off the hook on some of these decisions he has to make. … If he’s acquitted of everything, that makes these decisions a lot easier.”

 

[GrandmaBear]

If it's a mistrial motion that would require some thought, research and explanation to support a denial or agreement (so no overturn on appeals), this buys him some time and he can confer I would think as well with other judges, and maybe also he prefers the jury get the case as timely as possible was the priority. I haven't watched this so I don't know if he takes time to let both sides argue such motions, etc. so that's another thing that would hold things up.

And yes, if it isn't a guilty verdict, it is entirely unnecessary at that point to even entertain it one would think.

I don't think I've ever been to Kenosha, I sure wouldn't want to be there now with the media on this and everything else.

 

[GrandmaBear]

My mom just said the Ritttenhouse family has been called back to the courthouse or someone's family. This would mean generally a verdicit is in, usually anyhow...

 

[Tresir]

I think the judge said he he will rule after a verdict is made, not that he would rule if Kyle was convicted. That's the way I understand it. JMO

If he is found innocent, the judge won't need to rule on the mistrial request at all. The defence would just withdraw the mistrial request.

ETA. I should have read all the posts before responding. As I see that is basically what others are saying too.

 

[daisy7]

Jury has a verdict!!

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yep claiming verdict is in. Heard it here too.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This also means it is not a hung jury!!!

 

[Tresir]

Live feed

 

[Kimster]

I hope and pray there won't be any violence over the weekend! I was kind of hoping they'd read the verdict on Monday, for that reason.

 

[Kimster]

Judge said no reactions to the verdict are allowed in the court. Tall order!

 

[Kimster]

WOW!

His reaction is what mine would have been. FALL DOWN.

 

[kdg411]

Not guilty on all counts.

 

[Kimster]

Because I didn't watch this trial closely, I can't give an educated opinion, so I won't. Again I will say this: I am praying that there won't be any violence this weekend.

 

[daisy7]

NOT GUILTY on all charges!!