ERIC RICHINS: Utah vs. Kouri Richins - Murder via fentanyl poisoning *GUILTY*

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Or possibly that he didn't know they contained it or his dealer after didn't know or didn't tell him?

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That’s what I was wanting to say, but it didn’t come out. Still, if Kouri wasn’t asking for fentanyl, it doesn’t seem realistic that she was actually trying to kill him. I don’t think people usually use oxy to poison people.

This is a case it is going to take putting it all together and the tech info and device info and texts, etc. are going to be coming in probably Monday and are big it's thought. Her bf, their communications, her behavior, her motives, all to come yet.

Robbie imo was entirely unbelievable. By the way he was selling fent, denies it was a thing in that year at that time though which to my recollection is totally false. Carmen simply got drugs to help Kouri but Robbie IS a dealer but tried to play down how big of a dealer he was or what sh*t he actually dealt in. He did say however, that whatever he was asked for he got her. Carmen is for the most part believable, was often in tears and feels horrid for what happened to Eric. It is said she keeps his obituary on her bathroom mirror so she never forgets.

Robbie also could not let it be said he ever dealt in anything too serious but that was proven false at times. The man also testified differently and signed sworn statements prior. Imo he's at total risk of his immunity deals being fully revoked. One isn't telling the truth and I doubt it's Carmen. Of course he uses the not remembering thing a lot but then when he needs it to be his memory is all of a sudden crystal clear... He was the epitome of a shifty lying witness, to me at least.

In fact, when he first took the stand, there was a pretty quick pause and stop and if I recall they went into chambers, something happened... EVeryone in the chats was convinced he was under an influence and that was the problem.

He came in weird too. When you have taken the stand, anyone, and enter the courtroom, isn't it typical you'd walk straight up the aisle and then to the witness stand? Not him. He wound through a crowded area and almost brushed the prosecutor he came so close... I thought right there he was either messed up or was trying to intimidate him, that was my take on that.

I can't watch every trial but it certainly makes a difference to watch them. And I always keep in mind those in the courtroom and the jurors see even more than we do. They can't watch the entire room and we can't. They can't watch the witness the whole time where we might only see them WHEN the camera is on them where they see them come in and all of it... Of course in this trial jurors have been removed more times than I can count.

On one hand, the defense is trying hard to mess up this case to help their client I suppose but on the other hand, they are rude, Lewis makes no sense at all, even the judge can't follow her, and more. I can't help but feel they are really turning the jurors off, they sure are the public watching.

On the flip side, I'm not overly impressed with the prosecutor either. He's not the only one on his team but he just is not objecting nearly enough imo and sometimes not enough of a go getter.

I don't know. I'm under no illusions whatsoever as to Kouri's guilt. And there is much to come yet. I also have a feeling as I think I said that the undercover officer was in there to debunk Robbie's claims... We weren't allowed to hear his testimony but they messed up in the beginning and we saw him and heard him... THey've went in a methodical order with every single witness and he came right after lying Robbie. And he is undercover narcotics...

A lot of it is circumstantial but many cases are, most in fact and there is a LOT that ties together.

What I do know is Kouri is someone we never want to see free on the streets, no one would be safe.

Oh and the Walk the Dog Letter is still to come.

And one last thing, defense is obvious in what they instantly panic or object over. One can tell what testimony and witnesses worry them instantly and surely the jury sees that too.

Oh yeah and then there's her personal journal as well... Kouri's... As LL says, may be one of the most explosive pieces of evidence there is...

Under 6 minutes.

As she says it must be dynamite as the D tried argument after argument on different bases to keep it out... Explosive I think she said...

It was allowed in so long as foundation is laid. Judge agreed with P arguments.

And sooooo just saying there is a LOT to come yet...

Maybe not a confession in it but something that contradicts things she said, just something... The first five pages...

Anyhow just also since I'm up on the case wanted to point out Kouri faces other charges like fraud/financial crimes. Murder is far from the only charge. I'd say those are pretty much slam dunk... And I think this one is once all is in... Will see I guess.

I don't see her going free in any case.

He is really fun to watch and listen to sometimes. He mimics a guess at Kouri's voice since it is a written transcript. He adds a lot of humor. It's the first interview of her and a search of her home happening after they know for sure his death was not natural causes but was due to five times the lethal limit of Fentanyl. Not long, think it was 15 minutes? Under 20.

there are a lot of transcripts, recorded sessions, clips, etc. being submitted in the trial. Some we hear, some we don't hear or see and so on.

Anyhow this is off the actual transcript of her interview and he shows it. ONE of her interviews... When they knew for sure Fentanyl killed him.

And....

Both good, but the above one is night of... Well morning of...

Lol he adds some badly needed lightness in this one while also looking at the facts. You can't imo not smile listening to him.

And I think some could use a smile in general, not just this case either but in life.

And good points about Kouri's mother... True too. There are so many more layers here than recaps can even show...

The thing is I hope the prosecution can show it all... Because it IS all there.

There is a lot interesting about her mother and if she takes the stand I definitely am listening to that one and if I have to miss it I will go back to see it...

A LOT interesting about mom and her... Wonder about the brother too but mom definitely...

Man he's hilarious. I watch him but not all of his regularly or anything.

the humorous drama in what's been a heavy case and quite the trial... He's just great at it.

GrandmaBear said:

Lol he adds some badly needed lightness in this one while also looking at the facts. You can't imo not smile listening to him.

And I think some could use a smile in general, not just this case either but in life.

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He can be so funny! I really like him.
I haven't watched much of the trial but I did hear the testimonies from the housekeeper and the drug-dealer and I don't see any defense, do you know what I mean?
And I remember Eric's sister's testimony about when they were planning his funeral and it was brought up by Kouri's mother and backed by Kouri- that Eric wanted cremation, which was never his family's tradition. You know, we see that- especially in poisonings- where the perp wants cremation.
Anyway, off topic, but why is there a mirror on the back wall of the courtroom? I've never seen that before and it seems odd to me.

Regina said:

He can be so funny! I really like him.
I haven't watched much of the trial but I did hear the testimonies from the housekeeper and the drug-dealer and I don't see any defense, do you know what I mean?
And I remember Eric's sister's testimony about when they were planning his funeral and it was brought up by Kouri's mother and backed by Kouri- that Eric wanted cremation, which was never his family's tradition. You know, we see that- especially in poisonings- where the perp wants cremation.
Anyway, off topic, but why is there a mirror on the back wall of the courtroom? I've never seen that before and it seems odd to me.

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I wonder if the mirror is part of some kind of security ?

Do we know what her defense is going to be? Or is it just going to be that the prosecution is wrong?

Day 6: Evidence from Kouri Richins’ phone reviewed as murder trial enters second week​

The jury trial for Kouri Richins, the Kamas woman accused of killing her husband and writing a children’s book about coping with grief, is back in court for week two.


During the first week of trial, first responders and law enforcement were called to the stand to testify about the night of Eric’s death. On the third day of the trial, the prosecution called the lead crime scene technician to testify regarding evidence from the scene.

The fourth day of the trial continued with Gipson’s testimony and additional testimony from investigators and forensic scientists. The Richins’ former housekeeper, who allegedly purchased fentanyl for Kouri, testified

Her testimony continued on day five. Lauber was questioned about her interviews with the Utah Attorney’s Office following Eric’s death. The defense said that Lauber gave conflicting stories. Robert Crozier, who allegedly provided the drugs to Lauber, testified. Before the court was put in recess for the weekend, a forensic expert testified.

The trial resumed Monday morning with more testimony from forensic experts and witnesses who knew the Richins. A retired law enforcement agent who runs a business analyzing and training officers in forensic data then testified about what information was recovered from Kouri’s cell phone.

Web searches, messages, and images recovered from her phone were displayed for the court.


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I guess Eric may have had fond feelings of a co-worker in 2019 and Kouri told a friend there was a prenup and if they split up, Eric could go on his merry way, but she would have to struggle to get by. Interesting.

Now I’m watching the text messages from Kouri’s boyfriend to Kouri. Ugh. Valentine’s Day 2020. Supposedly this is the first time Cory tried to poison Eric. She and Eric are also texting back-and-forth the same about how Eric doesn’t feel well.

Financial expert testifies Kouri Richins used money from life insurance policy to pay off growing $7.5 million debt​

An expert witness with a specialization in forensic accounting took the stand on Tuesday and testified to the state of Kouri Richins’ financial accounts as prosecutors attempted to draw a connection between her growing debt and the death of Eric Richins as a possible motive.

Prosecutors called Brooke Karrington, a trained forensic accountant with more than 30 years of experience as an expert witness, on the seventh day of the trial. Forensic accountants investigate bank statements and other key information to “understand the landscape” of an individual’s financial situation.

Karrington said she reviewed “hundreds of thousands” of documents, including property deeds, loans, emails and the couple’s premarital agreement, in addition to interviewing accountants, realtors and insurance providers. Her testimony focused on Kouri’s house flipping business, which struggled financially in the years leading up to Eric’s death.

The company — K. Richins Realty — was initially funded by a $250,000 line of credit that Kouri would use to pay for renovations on homes she hoped to sell. But she started to overdraft her accounts by late 2021, with more than $300,000 in bounced checks written to contractors, according to Karrington.

Karrington alleged Kouri also tried to pay herself $60,000, but the transaction did not go through due to a lack of funds.

“Something obviously was going on at this time,” Karrington testified.

By the time Eric died in March 2022, Kouri had approximately $7.5 million in debt and was paying $80,000 a month to her lenders.

I’m currently watching the highlights of this testimony on Eastidahonews.com. Wow! Kouri sure did go through cash! And if you get a chance, check out that humongous mansion that she lost millions on. I had to clutch my pearls on that one.

Kimster said:

I’m currently watching the highlights of this testimony on Eastidahonews.com. Wow! Kouri sure did go through cash! And if you get a chance, check out that humongous mansion that she lost millions on. I had to clutch my pearls on that one.

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She definitely was not a smart business person.

Guess Who said:

She definitely was not a smart business person.

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However, she did talk a lot of people into lending her money. And I didn’t think you could still get away with kiting money these days. That’s when you make it look like you have money in one account and write a check and it’s actually just money floating from one institution to the next. However, she was successfully getting away with it.

Do you think it was because of her good looks?