FL HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Missing from Satsuma, FL - 10 Feb 2009 - Age 5

Haleigh's photo is shown age-progressed to 15 years. She was last known to be sleeping in her home, in the area of Hermit's Cove in Satsuma, Florida, on the evening of February 9, 2009. Haleigh was discovered missing during the early morning hours of February 10, 2009. She may still be in the local area. Haleigh's ears are pierced.
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Haleigh was last known to be sleeping in her family's trailer in the 200 block of Green Lane in the area of Hermit's Cove in Satsuma, Florida, late in the evening on February 9, 2009. She went to bed at 8:00 p.m. Her father's live-in girlfriend of five months, Misty Janette Croslin (sometimes identified in the media by her later married name, Misty Cummings), went to sleep in the same room at 10:00 p.m. Haleigh's three-year-old brother was also sleeping in that room.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Lemyles Cummings, finished working second shift and arrived home sometime after 3:00 a.m. on February 10. Misty told him she'd just discovered Haleigh was missing from her bed. The rear door to the trailer was several inches ajar and the screen door had been propped open with a cinder block. Ronald and Misty called 911 at 3:37 a.m. to report Haleigh's disappearance.

The police found no sign of forced entry to the trailer, but they are uncertain whether the back door was locked. Ronald and Misty have insisted that it was, and Ronald maintains the trailer was broken into.

Haleigh's younger brother told investigators that a man dressed in black had come to their home that night and taken his sister. Authorities aren't sure how much credence to give to his story, given his age. An extensive search of the area turned up no sign of Haleigh. Her father stated she wouldn't have left home by herself at night, as she is afraid of the dark.


In October 2009, six months into the marriage, Ronald filed for divorce. He cited irreconcilable differences as the reason, mainly the stress caused by Haleigh's disappearance and the subsequent police investigation and media attention. The divorce became final within days; since Ronald and Misty had only been married a short time and they didn't share any property or have any children together, there was little to discuss.

Police repeatedly questioned Misty about Haleigh's disappearance and looked into the possibility that she wasn't in fact at home when the child disappeared. Misty describes herself as a devoted caregiver to Haleigh and her brother and said she had been home the entire night and hadn't left the children alone.

Investigators have been publicly skeptical of Misty's story, stating she failed four polygraphs and one voice stress test, and changed her story multiple times; they described her accounts as "consistently inconsistent."

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Have you seen this child? HALEIGH CUMMINGS

Missing From: SATSUMA, FL. Missing Date: 02/10/2009. Haleigh's photo is shown age-progressed to 15 years. She was last known to be sleeping in her home, in the area of Hermit's Cove in Satsuma, Florida, on the evening of February 9, 2009. Haleigh was discovered missing during the early morning...

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Charley Project -

Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings – The Charley Project

HALEIGH CUMMINGS is still missing from Satsuma, Florida. Her disappearance has been highly publicized since 2009.

Haleigh was discovered missing during the early morning hours of February 10, 2009. She may still be in the local area.

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[Guess Who]

I just wouldn't have expected her to have heard anything and I think to say she should have, therefore, it's incriminating that she didn't, is irrational.

If she was under the influence of nearly anything they have been proven to use, it's easy to understand how she might not have noticed anything.

 

[Regina]

If she was under the influence of nearly anything they have been proven to use, it's easy to understand how she might not have noticed anything.

Well, it's easy for me to understand why she'd sleep through it , regardless, I mean, I can think of all sorts of reasons why but I don't need to do that, you know?

But she did wake up for some reason and that's where there's an inconsistency, that is, what caused her to wake up.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Of course not and I can't imagine what gave you that idea.

So someone else came in?

Just trying to get what you are thinking. And i am sorry if I can't recall. Like the landlord...?

Without anyone else's knowledge or noticing?

Used a cement block, etc.?

I almost never say anything is impossible. And generally take some time and certain criteria, etc. to form an opinion, and even when formed, it could be changed, maybe not easily, but depending, and even with an opinion sometimes say I am about at 70 percent, etc.

I do have a few cases where it would take a lot.

Well to be fair, maybe more than a few because I get there for reasons as the case evolves or even when starts, as things come.

Of course neither you nor I can know what is known like by authorities, etc. so there's that too.

I am not sure and someone could probably correct me but one of the cases I've said I'd probably never change my opinion on nor anything could is Morphew. I rarely say such.

I'm not 100 percent here of course. I am pretty solid on it but not 100 percent.

It's always interesting to talk with you. But I do still, maybe both do, have trouble understanding as I guess of course we are different. Which also though makes it interesting. Like in Natalie Wood recently, I BELIEVE you said nothing can make you change your opinion, Don't get me wrong, basically nothing can with me in Morphew, but we never know all the stuff LE does in any case, may after and then it will never be all.

Hope all is well, as always, mean no offense, just trying to understand. This case isn't active every day or even every year. So hard to be fresh on, but I know full well you don't think Misty did anything, and believe you think someone else came in, so just asking, OR she had over or some such.

Where are you at on it is what I'm asking? I don't know if it is one you claimed you thought you were totally decided on, becuase even with someone else, are you set on who? Stranger, landlord, brother, fellow partier? Someone they knew? Or not?

 

[Regina]

Re inconsistency, the Incident Report states that Misty "woke up to get a drink" and there's no mention of a bathroom and in an interview with the media, she said "I got up 'cause I had to use the bathroom but I didn't make it to the bathroom."
Well, both events are after the fact, that is, after she woke up, but what caused her to wake up in the first place could be either or neither.
Much later, she said she didn't know why she woke up, which I find is honest because in that circumstance, it's something I don't think she could have ever answered.

 

[Guess Who]

Sometimes you just don't know what woke you up because whatever it was isn't happening any more. Then while you are awake, you realize you need to go pee and or need a drink. This part of her story is very believable to me.

 

[Regina]

Sometimes you just don't know what woke you up because whatever it was isn't happening any more. Then while you are awake, you realize you need to go pee and or need a drink. This part of her story is very believable to me.

Indeed!
As to what caused her to wake up, my best guess is it was the light from the kitchen.

 

[Kimster]

I just wouldn't have expected her to have heard anything and I think to say she should have, therefore, it's incriminating that she didn't, is irrational.

I still think it could go either way. I have thought certain ideas are irrational and been proven wrong too many times in these criminal cases. The truth is stranger than fiction some of the time.

 

[Regina]

I still think it could go either way. I have thought certain ideas are irrational and been proven wrong too many times in these criminal cases. The truth is stranger than fiction some of the time.

I'm talking about a process of thinking and arriving at conclusions.
To John Merchant's way of thinking, with "a concrete block and a metal door...something had to make some noise", insinuating that Misty should have heard something, she should have woke up, and that neither happened is therefore incriminating.
Well, first, I'd expect that the perp tried to avoid making noise and so the fact that it was a metal door and a concrete block makes no difference to me and so right off the bat, I don't follow his line of thinking.
Do you?

 

[GrandmaBear]

Indeed!
As to what caused her to wake up, my best guess is it was the light from the kitchen.

I wouldn't say light wakes a person up, you already have to be opening your eyes to see the light. I wake up far too often, light will keep me up though after I am awakened, if I see it for too long, I won't be able to go back to sleep.

 

[Kimster]

I'm talking about a process of thinking and arriving at conclusions.
To John Merchant's way of thinking, with "a concrete block and a metal door...something had to make some noise", insinuating that Misty should have heard something, she should have woke up, and that neither happened is therefore incriminating.
Well, first, I'd expect that the perp tried to avoid making noise and so the fact that it was a metal door and a concrete block makes no difference to me and so right off the bat, I don't follow his line of thinking.
Do you?

I think it could go either way. And absolutely they were probably trying to be quiet.

 

[Kimster]

I wouldn't say light wakes a person up, you already have to be opening your eyes to see the light. I wake up far too often, light will keep me up though after I am awakened, if I see it for too long, I won't be able to go back to sleep.

Having to go pee has always been my main reason for getting up in the middle of the night, whether young or old.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm talking about a process of thinking and arriving at conclusions.
To John Merchant's way of thinking, with "a concrete block and a metal door...something had to make some noise", insinuating that Misty should have heard something, she should have woke up, and that neither happened is therefore incriminating.
Well, first, I'd expect that the perp tried to avoid making noise and so the fact that it was a metal door and a concrete block makes no difference to me and so right off the bat, I don't follow his line of thinking.
Do you?

I think this has been debated before.

If there actually is another "perp", he'd also have to be carrying a child and more. Gotten her from the room. Tried to carry her out the door, etc. Something is likely to make sound no matter how he tried to be quiet. I'm guessing you've carried a 5 year old child? So have I and I would not call it an easy task especially if sleeping, getting and out the door, etc.

However, I'm not going to say every person normally awakens to this and that depending on the level of passed out, how loud, etc.

And of course that's all moot if one believes there never was any intruder, or that M was even sleeping necessarily. Which is where I lean and I know we don't agree.

Good Morning by the way.

Anyhow, therein lies the problem and that is what the truth actually is, The other day when I came in to read, and I forget, but think I landed on page 3 somehow of this thread. So I reread a number of posts from back a ways, including some of yours.

Clearly most think there was no intruder.

Either way Haleigh has never been found nor sighted anywhere. No one charged.

So there is no getting to the bottom of it, especially for us other than our opinions where we stand on it is about as far as that can go. Discussed? Sure. Agreed on or solved for sure? No.

I'll mention something though, I've lived in a mobile home, and it was a double wide, pretty big. 3 bed, 2 ba, plus den even. Large open living, kitchen, dining and I never got any decent sleep as if my hub got up to go to work or for anything, it would awaken me, I'm talking about the footsteps and weight and movement. And other things yes, would waken me if he did this or that, but I doubt any perp was doing such things, like making coffee, putting his boots on, etc., but just him being up and about even trying to be quiet would. And let me tell you, at that time, I could sleep HAD I not dealt with such and sleep pretty hard.

And he was never carrying a child, etc. so...

I could hear him close the door on leaving, all of it. There wasn't a lick of carpet in the place and so nothing softened, but even had there been... Meaning ours.

Now I could sleep at my mom's and nothing wakes up, even nowadays. Unless of course you are close to in between on waking anyhow. Just two completely different kinds of homes.

 

[Regina]

Another example of how Merchant's mind works is when he said "A stranger comes inside the house and picks up a little girl and leaves the little boy there? It makes no sense."
That one boggles my mind; I think that one takes the cake.

 

[Regina]

I'm guessing you've carried a 5 year old child? So have I and I would not call it an easy task especially if sleeping, getting and out the door, etc.

Of course, I've carried a sleeping child and btw, as I recall, they almost never- if ever- woke up.

In that NG episode where they're inside the home, it was observed as they'd walked around that the floor was quiet.

Good Morning by the way.

Good morning to you!

 

[Guess Who]

Having to go pee has always been my main reason for getting up in the middle of the night, whether young or old.

Especially if you have been woken up by something.

 

[Guess Who]

Of course, I've carried a sleeping child and btw, as I recall, they almost never- if ever- woke up.

In that NG episode where they're inside the home, it was observed as they'd walked around that the floor was quiet.

Good morning to you!

Mine always woke up when you tried to lay them back down. Hardly ever woke up when picking them up gently.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Another example of how Merchant's mind works is when he said "A stranger comes inside the house and picks up a little girl and leaves the little boy there? It makes no sense."
That one boggles my mind; I think that one takes the cake.

Agree on that one, kind of hard to get what he means there. Some perps would take any child, and some want a certain one I'd think, or a certain sex, some don't care. Depending on the reason of course and their intent.

I'm guessing it is out of the context of what he meant, but I sure don't know.

On it's face and by itself, it seems a pretty dumb remark.

 

[Regina]

Having to go pee has always been my main reason for getting up in the middle of the night, whether young or old.

Well, by that hour of the morn, who wouldn't need to go? lol

You know, issue was taken that Misty didn't use the master bathroom but for me, there's no issue being that she said she saw a light on in the kitchen.
I mean, I believe I can say with certainty that if I woke up and saw a light on that shouldn't be on, I'd check it out first before using the bathroom.
In Misty's situation, she said she thought Ronald was home.

 

[Regina]

Needless to say, the media obtained info from the Incident Report of 2/10/09, which I think was very unfortunate (understatement) being that I take issue with the narrative pertaining to Misty's statements and sequence of events.
I wonder, does anyone else take issue at all?

https://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

 

[GrandmaBear]

Of course, I've carried a sleeping child and btw, as I recall, they almost never- if ever- woke up.

In that NG episode where they're inside the home, it was observed as they'd walked around that the floor was quiet.

Good morning to you!

Good morning today now!

Our floor didn't creak or anything either, I was hearing him and feeling the movement even more so. I mean you aren't telling me if Nancy had had heels on that she couldn't hear them on a bare floor are you? Not saying any perp wore heels but am just giving an example. And my hub was trying to be quiet as he knew it always woke me.

All we can do really here is speculate, and based on our own experiences and such. And of course aren't agreeing LOL!

I mostly as someone else said wake up to pee but not then, it was over him.

Mine would sometimes rouse, a sleeping child I mean, I mean just getting them out of the car, into the house, through the door was not easy, then into bed, etc., shoes off. Also depended on how long had been sleeping. But another thought would be if they found themselves in the arms of a stranger when they did, wouldn't that alarm... Hard to say.

But then of course, I don't think such ever happened. I don't think she ever left that house alive. But that's where we can talk of it, even debate, but of course no one can be sure. Not me, not you. Imo.

My daughter was here yesterday, a Godsend brought me much needed things as I can't do much right now. They just got a couple of older kittens, their first. Well "theirs" anyhow, She has been around cats plenty but they've never had any together. I asked who they were doing and if she was finding how fun they are but also can get into everything, etc. and she commented on how in the middle of every night they are zipping around the house and waking them up. Etc. and etc. And let me tell you she is a hard sleeper. But again, all we can do is speculate...

None of it is any kind of proof, of course, and who can say if she should have or would have awakened. I mean lifestyle alone may have had her really zonked or the opposite, but again, I don't buy most of what she says anyhow. And I know we disagree there.

Well, hope all has been going well for you. I am still pre coffee.

One last thing, I am now divorced, but used to know when I felt movement or heard anything that it was my hub and I still awoke. Now if I felt such I'd also no matter how tired would rouse and panic, because there's no one here that would cause that. But also I am past the kid years but if I had kids in the home yet, your senses, or of most, are on higher alert. Is my toddler up, what is going on. I think most parents would agree. Of course they weren't hers.

But again, that's jmo and we both know we aren't going to agree on this one LOL.