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Bernard Madoff says he is dying and is asking a judge for compassionate release from prison, where he is serving 150 years for orchestrating the largest Ponzi scheme in history, according to a Wednesday federal court filing.

Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less than 18 months. When the court sentenced him, “it was clear that Madoff’s 150-year prison sentence was symbolic for three reasons: retribution, deterrence, and for the victims,” the court filing states. “This Court must now consider whether keeping Madoff incarcerated … is truly in furtherance of statutory sentencing goals and our society’s value and understanding of compassion.”

Madoff said in the request for compassionate release that he “does not dispute the severity of his crimes.”


IMO- stay in jail
 
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I'll tell you something funny about Black Friday. Well the UK shops got onto this kick a few years ago and also started doing Black Friday sales and sh!t but of course we don't have a Thanksgiving day in the UK so the Black Friday salesin November just has everyone confused as heck here. It's meaningless. We have no public holidays from the end of August until Christmas Day so really Black Friday for us should be the last Friday before Christmas Day. The dimwits.
Taht's funny lol. Why even call it the same thing much les hve it on the same day. In our state, it is also the last weekend of deer hunting, families have been together for the holiday the day before and the women (not all are women of course) often go shopping on Black Friday while their guys are hunting. It's the kickoff to what retailers hope will be the best Christmas shopping season ever so I'm not sure you would really want to wait til just before Christmas, here most would be done by then and inventories wiped out on some items but yeah, why do a total copy of ours lol?

I actually thought it his when I was responding to you earlier, thinking I bet they don't have Black Friday because they don't share our Thanksgiving and that I hoped you knew what it meant lol.

Even worse, this year we had like preblack Friday sales at our store so every year they try to move up the season even before Thanksgiving is over of COURSE hoping for a better retail season every year.

Nothing can get me out on that day EVER, I did it very few times even back when. But now I work so I have to actually get out on the day to work but not to shop.

We might be nuts but a work friend of mine and I are going to try to do a late lunch together that day. Our schedules never match or allow us. We both have to work the next day too and will likely be wiped but as she said if we have a long wait, it isn't like we can't talk for hours because the rare time we get a chance, we DO lol.

I'm not sure it's a good idea, restaurants will be overpacked too but it will be mid-afternoon by the time we are done and get somewhere so maybe it won't be so bad. We shall see lol. Since most get out early for the best deals, maybe it will be slowing some by then.

So you DO have Black Friday. Interesting lol.

I wouldn't call us the biggest retailer by any means or the one most would go to first but it's surprising how many we have in line all day from early in the morning.

We go in an hour before start to walk the store as we will have customers all day asking us where this or that is and they reset all that the night before and we could have no idea otherwise. They did do a map last year for customers but unsure how many actually followed it. Normally after mfter my two years now I can tell a customer where almost every single thing in our huge store is and if it is any sales ad, I don't always know if they put it on an end cap BUT they also keep some of every item in its regular spot but not with these Blacfk Friday deals as they were never out prior to that day or in stock.

Front end will have most cashiering and bragging, self included. We don't bag otherwise UNLESS we have time beteween customers, they bag their own stuff. That day though it is teams of two on every till. Also normally, others are off helping other departments to keep us all busy, etc. but not that day. It's a zoo. And we have the opening shift, I also did last year so it will be nonstop throughout our shift. It was last year. It may start to slow some about the time we leave and for the later shift people's last part of their shift etc.

And THEN I start on that crazy day and work six in a ROW which I hate. Thinkg the same thing happened last year. I should just come home that day instead of trying to do lunch with her but we are going to give it a try. Wouldn't surprise me if we end up with a gas station burger or pizza and sitting in one of our cars lol.

Not to go on but I just never get more time at the holidays but less and a holiday off is never an extra day off. It gets pretty old, you just lose one of your normal days off. You do get an extra day of pay which used to be very important but is a LITTLE bit less so to me now, and I am in real need of a break and have been for some time. Oh well.

So do your stores start at like the wee hours too and put up good deals and so on? Or because it confuses people has it not so far worked out real well lol?
 
Taht's funny lol. Why even call it the same thing much les hve it on the same day. In our state, it is also the last weekend of deer hunting, families have been together for the holiday the day before and the women (not all are women of course) often go shopping on Black Friday while their guys are hunting. It's the kickoff to what retailers hope will be the best Christmas shopping season ever so I'm not sure you would really want to wait til just before Christmas, here most would be done by then and inventories wiped out on some items but yeah, why do a total copy of ours lol?

I actually thought it his when I was responding to you earlier, thinking I bet they don't have Black Friday because they don't share our Thanksgiving and that I hoped you knew what it meant lol.

Even worse, this year we had like preblack Friday sales at our store so every year they try to move up the season even before Thanksgiving is over of COURSE hoping for a better retail season every year.

Nothing can get me out on that day EVER, I did it very few times even back when. But now I work so I have to actually get out on the day to work but not to shop.

We might be nuts but a work friend of mine and I are going to try to do a late lunch together that day. Our schedules never match or allow us. We both have to work the next day too and will likely be wiped but as she said if we have a long wait, it isn't like we can't talk for hours because the rare time we get a chance, we DO lol.

I'm not sure it's a good idea, restaurants will be overpacked too but it will be mid-afternoon by the time we are done and get somewhere so maybe it won't be so bad. We shall see lol. Since most get out early for the best deals, maybe it will be slowing some by then.

So you DO have Black Friday. Interesting lol.

I wouldn't call us the biggest retailer by any means or the one most would go to first but it's surprising how many we have in line all day from early in the morning.

We go in an hour before start to walk the store as we will have customers all day asking us where this or that is and they reset all that the night before and we could have no idea otherwise. They did do a map last year for customers but unsure how many actually followed it. Normally after mfter my two years now I can tell a customer where almost every single thing in our huge store is and if it is any sales ad, I don't always know if they put it on an end cap BUT they also keep some of every item in its regular spot but not with these Blacfk Friday deals as they were never out prior to that day or in stock.

Front end will have most cashiering and bragging, self included. We don't bag otherwise UNLESS we have time beteween customers, they bag their own stuff. That day though it is teams of two on every till. Also normally, others are off helping other departments to keep us all busy, etc. but not that day. It's a zoo. And we have the opening shift, I also did last year so it will be nonstop throughout our shift. It was last year. It may start to slow some about the time we leave and for the later shift people's last part of their shift etc.

And THEN I start on that crazy day and work six in a ROW which I hate. Thinkg the same thing happened last year. I should just come home that day instead of trying to do lunch with her but we are going to give it a try. Wouldn't surprise me if we end up with a gas station burger or pizza and sitting in one of our cars lol.

Not to go on but I just never get more time at the holidays but less and a holiday off is never an extra day off. It gets pretty old, you just lose one of your normal days off. You do get an extra day of pay which used to be very important but is a LITTLE bit less so to me now, and I am in real need of a break and have been for some time. Oh well.

So do your stores start at like the wee hours too and put up good deals and so on? Or because it confuses people has it not so far worked out real well lol?
No they don't go as far as changing shopping hours. It doesnt make a big impact IMO. It does seem to help start the Chrustmas shopping season though.
 
I gotta go but thank God now she is on the playing of the P side of this parole hearing who makes a very good argument. Not going to be able to finish it now but it's pretty riveting.
 
Hard time listening to this as can so identify with the aunt talking now. Ripping me apart.

Life should mean LIFE though is a takeaway from it. YES IT SHOULD. So many still do NOT know it DOES NOT mean that.

WHO effed with our system so badly under our noses these last how many years?

Have a good day everyone. This is hard but very riveting. I have to leave it now.
 
Parole for Susan Smith has been DENIED.
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here's an interesting one. Interesting because evidently LE stated she was last seen at a house party, then her parent came in and said he dropped her off at the community center and LE changed it to that. My thing is what if he did drop her off at the community center but she actually went to a house party instead? I'd need to get some info from her friends that attended. Most community centers here have video on at least the entrances and exits. Teens are known for telling their parents only part of the story.

 
Parole for Susan Smith has been DENIED.
I watched the parole board hearing last night on YouTube. I’ve never seen a parole board hearing so I wanted to watch it. Their dad is still in so much pain after 30 years! What a good father he would’ve been to those boys.

Susan didn’t appear any different to me at all. The same crocodile tears. And I guess she’s had trouble in prison and she had excuse after excuse. They also mentioned that the jury had asked what “life” meant and at the time it meant Life in prison. They chose that because they wanted her to be in prison and think about what she did the rest of her life. Then a year or two after that, the state changed the laws to the ability to appear before a parole after 30 years. The jury ruled based on believing she would stay in prison her whole life and that’s where she should stay.

 

  • JOHN O'CONNOR Associated Press
  • 1 hr ago
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — The Illinois Supreme Court will hear an appeal of actor Jussie Smollett's disorderly conduct conviction for staging a racist and homophobic attack against himself in 2019, then lying to Chicago police about it.

The court on Wednesday accepted the appeal from Smollett, formerly a cast member of the television drama "Empire." It will review a December state appellate court ruling that upheld his 2021 conviction by a Cook County jury.

The case kicked up an international uproar and produced an intensive manhunt by Chicago police detectives.

There is no date set for the high court to hear arguments in the matter.

A special prosecutor refiled charges against Smollett after Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx dropped the case and Smollett forfeited his $10,000 bond and conducted community service, which Smollett argues ended the case.

In a 2-1 decision, the state's First District Appellate Court dismissed those claims, declaring that no one promised Smollett he wouldn't face a fresh prosecution after accepting the original deal. Justice Freddrenna Lyle dissented, calling the refiled charges "fundamentally unfair."

His attorneys have argued that Smollett, who is Black and gay, has been victimized by a racist and politicized justice system.

Smollett was found guilty of five counts of disorderly conduct for setting up the attack in which he claimed two men assaulted him on a Chicago street. He claimed they spouted slurs and an oath about being in "MAGA country" — an apparent reference to former President Donald Trump's rallying credo — before tossing a noose around his neck.

Testimony at his trial indicated Smollett paid $3,500 to two men whom he knew from "Empire," which was filmed in Chicago, to carry out the attack. But Smollett took the stand and told the jury, "There was no hoax."

He was sentenced to 150 days in jail — six of which he served before he was freed pending appeal — 30 months of probation and ordered to pay $130,160 in restitution.

 
I watched the parole board hearing last night on YouTube. I’ve never seen a parole board hearing so I wanted to watch it. Their dad is still in so much pain after 30 years! What a good father he would’ve been to those boys.

Susan didn’t appear any different to me at all. The same crocodile tears. And I guess she’s had trouble in prison and she had excuse after excuse. They also mentioned that the jury had asked what “life” meant and at the time it meant Life in prison. They chose that because they wanted her to be in prison and think about what she did the rest of her life. Then a year or two after that, the state changed the laws to the ability to appear before a parole after 30 years. The jury ruled based on believing she would stay in prison her whole life and that’s where she should stay.


yes and there is something and serious things really wrong with our system based on that. now she will come up like every two years is it? so wrong, so unfair.

I ran into this before leaving for work yesterday. I saw a fair amount of her side, coudln't even tell you show as I hit it "during" and they were givbein it a big effort and I thought NO, you cannot let this woman out. thankfully before I left for work I saw a fair amount o fhe P side who was really hammering in what she did. and I felt more secure and then had to leave for work. I got home last night and it was Melanie Little's channel I had watched it on or the parts I saw and it was still up so I started it meaning to continue but it started a new before the parole hearing started. wa stired and never saw it "all". I saw HERE that parole was denied.

I think everyone who was alive of any age remembers this case. I did see on Melanie today, as it started at the beginning of her video, susan's words and things from back when. SUCH a liar.

I meant to watch it all but still haven't although when I first posted it yesterday i'd seen a fair portion.

I'm as upset about our laws and changes too. I mean as you said here, the jury thought they were putting her away for good.

It's not RIGHT.

Thing surprised the heck out of us in our case where only through happenstance almost did we find out most serve about 2/3 of their sentence, etc. WHAT?

All of these changes apparently went on under our noses and many STILL are not aware of them until and if something happens to you and they matter to you and then you find out the hard way.

Life is not life. WHAT? Etc.

And really, now that I've been aware for awhile, let me also say how's this whole thing been working out??? Not with her but we see offender after offender that NEVER should have been out murder another, etc.

But back to her, I don't care if she turns into Mother Teresa, she methodically, and planned, and cold bloodedly killed her two little BOYS. That was a CHOICE. BAlmed a black man. Got on TB for nine days and lied about it. Etc.

I wouldn't care if she was 19, 25 or 45, she made this choice and repeatedly lied and did so to her husband. And took their lives. I heard her today as I hit Melanie a the beginning of the video saying how the older one did something he'd never done before and it sounded like "eh took his pooper out of his mouth" that day,, people were debating what she said and most including me figured she meant pacifier and told her he loved her. She went on to say he'd said that before but only in response to her saying it, not saying it unprompted and on his own out of the blue!

THAT is going to haunt me. And what a psycho. I probably knew it back when but forgot. Lek most of us, I recall the case well and what she did.

It's probably true and the two year old ws it probably had a sense of something...IF TRUE of course but I'd almost bet it was.

I heard too, YES, that she was never to be up for parole, they EVEN considered charging the DP for her!!

On a "baser" level and she deserves it, I'm going to lower myself and say I don't know who the heck was having an affair with something like that or why prison guards would either but I guess with some men it's whatever will do such...

Every two years from what I understand now. This shall go on. Disgusting.

Also, I ran into this out of the blue before leaving for work yesterday. I wasn't sure if I was watching something Melani Little was doing coverage on from prior or if it was live. When I got home and looked hera and went back on hers, I realized itw as happening as she played it. Then I wondered or realized I think we've heard hints of this coming up but WHY was this not covered or known to no end? I mean for me, I get it, I don't follow much for news sources and it's an old case. And my YT algorithms aren't going to bring it up most likely but the fact Melanie had it up is the only reason I even realized it was going on.

As far as parole hearings, etc. oh boy, I haevn't seen many but Iv'e seen some real idiots let someone out. They aren't voted in for one thing and most of us never know of such.

I recall watching OJ's when they let him out. Not on the murders of course but his later charges..

We can't fix this world but it's really disgusting this sh*t goes on under our noses.

Thankfully she was not let out today, but the jury that convicted her had no idea based on what you said that this could happen.

She's not been an angel in prison either.

And two very young children are dead. Her OWN.

If what I heard earlier today is correct, it will be every TWO years now.
 
Yes, it’s every two years. And the boys’ dad said that he will be there every two years. He also said that so far she’s only served 15 years, one for each son.
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I honestly don't know how a jury can been be led to believe such and then it is changed later. It is WRONG.

This world has gone NUTS.

Our killer got SIX years for the murder of a defenseless baby and lied repeatedly and more. It's disgusting. And we have already been through him being moved to somehere with less security where he can have picnics with his family, etc.

Here we get a longer sentence and the jury wanted her to deal with and think about such and live with such forever but nope, rules changed (how can they AFTER??) and now parole chances every two years!

Yes, I'm being emphatic but this sh*t goes on under our noses! And will only get worse.

AS far as the jury wanting her to live it and think about it, this woman imo thinks of no such thing nor does it haunt her. She is all about self.

I did not see dad, I still hope to watch it all. I did see a fair portion of it. Not sure if I will get back to it or not.

Went to rewatch yesterday but it started at the beginning of Melaanie's video and while I could have skpped ahead to the parole hearing, I wanted to see her from back when also...She lied on TV for nine days straight. She looks like some prim, naive, badly dressed woman trying to look all churchy and proper and I'm wondering what rich man had an affair with her. Shallow I know but really... Clearly there's another side to her and then sex with the guards in prison.

I'm just so OUTRAGED at our system these days. If a change can change AFTER the verdict well then if harsher rules are put in place now, it can change after too right? Meaning NOW there is no parole and you have to serve this much of your sentence. Should work both ways. It's just such b.s.

Every two years!! Forever after.

Sorry for the rant. It's just so disgusting. I have said it before and will again, idiots run this world. How well is it working out? And no I am not talking politics. They ALL are. The ones in power who mess with things never lived a real life the most part in their entire lives and just like to mess with things. Where the he77 has common sense and logic gone??

I started out with a response but now am just venting randomly.

It is NOT okay that this jury thought they were putting her away for how long and it turns out she has chances of parole. It just is NOT okay.

My God if it were something in reverse the D would be appealing to no end.

I don't think I ever saw Susan or her former husband but I saw people and attorneys on the behalf of both before I left for work.

I have though seen some other parole hearings, thank God this board got it right. I saw OJs when they let him out and a Canada one that was outrageous. These boards are also not elected.

They got it right here but just saying they are a power of their own that no one in the public voted in...

Okay. Another bit of a rant I guess. It is just disgusting that this far back a jury thought they were sentencing her to harsher than she is seeing and she has a chance for parole. It is NOT RIGHT.

As to Susan Smith, I put her right on a level with Lori Daybell. And there's something really wrong that Smith could actually get out at some point.
 
what an idiot. his biggest concern is how the community will look at him. Gee. Dumbarse. And what about your KIDS. He researched and picked Green Lake as the deepest lake in WI. My. He and Karly Russell should get together, perfect pair...

 
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