BREAKING! BREAKING NEWS! IDENTIFIED! *General Information*

Mel70

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I guess they can easily identify the mother then. Good. She would be elderly but so what. You did It!
 

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

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I guess they can easily identify the mother then. Good. She would be elderly but so what. You did It!
Depending on which company did the DNA, they may not be able to press charges, even if they know who she is (if she's still alive).
That's why DNA Doe Project doesn't take on cases of children. Their info cannot be used for criminal cases, and identifying a child also usually identifies a suspect. And any of that info learned from DDP could not be used in a criminal case or to file criminal charges. They can work to identify the VICTIMS of a crime, but not to identify the SUSPECTS of a crime.
Obviously it has happened (Golden State Killer). However, it's a very sticky area legally and they probably have to meet additional requirements to use that as an option.
 

Guess Who

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Depending on which company did the DNA, they may not be able to press charges, even if they know who she is (if she's still alive).
That's why DNA Doe Project doesn't take on cases of children. Their info cannot be used for criminal cases, and identifying a child also usually identifies a suspect. And any of that info learned from DDP could not be used in a criminal case or to file criminal charges. They can work to identify the VICTIMS of a crime, but not to identify the SUSPECTS of a crime.
Obviously it has happened (Golden State Killer). However, it's a very sticky area legally and they probably have to meet additional requirements to use that as an option.
At least by identifying him, family and friends can piece what happened to him together and might have stories of their own that charges could be filed on
 

Mel70

Special specialist
Depending on which company did the DNA, they may not be able to press charges, even if they know who she is (if she's still alive).
That's why DNA Doe Project doesn't take on cases of children. Their info cannot be used for criminal cases, and identifying a child also usually identifies a suspect. And any of that info learned from DDP could not be used in a criminal case or to file criminal charges. They can work to identify the VICTIMS of a crime, but not to identify the SUSPECTS of a crime.
Obviously it has happened (Golden State Killer). However, it's a very sticky area legally and they probably have to meet additional requirements to use that as an option.
I didn't know that about Doe and I ran across them around 20 yrs ago.
 

The Coffeenator

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Millard County Jane Doe from 1979 has been identified as Sandra Louise Matott.

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"The Salt Lake City Police Department has announced the closure of a missing persons cold case after DNA testing confirmed human remains located in Millard County belonged to Sandra Matott, who disappeared in July of 1979.

To date, this is the oldest missing persons cold case closed by the Salt Lake City Police Department, said a news release."

SLCPD announces closure of 1979 missing persons cold case | Gephardt Daily

Sandra Matott's thread as a Jane Doe:
 

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

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Det. Williams said the investigation started in September 1996 when a father and son out bird hunting stumbled across a woman's remains wrapped up in a tarp in the hills above the Mill Creek area in rural Polk County.

Crime show host Yolanda McClary, a retired Las Vegas Metro Police Department investigator, offered to produce a special documentary on the case. The show, which aired on the Oxygen network, followed McClary and genealogists as they used a DNA profile developed from the remains to come up with a positive ID: Kathy Thomas.

Authorities said the killer is Brian Clifton, the man Kathy married after losing her children in Oklahoma and moving back to Oregon. Investigators believe Clifton took Kathy's life to be with another woman. Clifton was indicted and arrested in August 2021.
 

Kimster

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Det. Williams said the investigation started in September 1996 when a father and son out bird hunting stumbled across a woman's remains wrapped up in a tarp in the hills above the Mill Creek area in rural Polk County.

Crime show host Yolanda McClary, a retired Las Vegas Metro Police Department investigator, offered to produce a special documentary on the case. The show, which aired on the Oxygen network, followed McClary and genealogists as they used a DNA profile developed from the remains to come up with a positive ID: Kathy Thomas.

Authorities said the killer is Brian Clifton, the man Kathy married after losing her children in Oklahoma and moving back to Oregon. Investigators believe Clifton took Kathy's life to be with another woman. Clifton was indicted and arrested in August 2021.
So glad the killer was arrested! I’d love to see this episode on Oxygen.

He had killed someone else in robbery and he got less than 10 years in prison. If he would’ve gotten more time, which I think he deserved, Kathy might still be alive today.
 

Whatsnext

Carpe diem
 

Kimster

Let's Find Michael Bryson!
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I remember her case! She doesn’t look anything like I imagined. I wonder if that picture was taken years prior to the incident?
 

dmspi5

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So glad the killer was arrested! I’d love to see this episode on Oxygen.

He had killed someone else in robbery and he got less than 10 years in prison. If he would’ve gotten more time, which I think he deserved, Kathy might still be alive today.
I don't understand the sentencing with some murders, unfortunately some get out and do it again.
 

kdg411

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The Coffeenator

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Horseshoe Harriet from 1984 has been identified as Robin Pelkey.

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"DNA evidence has helped identify the remains of one of Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen’s victims, 37 years after her death.

Robin Pelkey is the name of the woman that was murdered in the early 1980s, according to the results of DNA research completed by the Alaska Bureau of Investigation Cold Case Unit and Parabon Nanolabs laboratory. The two agencies used new DNA samples from family members to construct a DNA profile and family tree for Pelkey, according to a Friday press release from the Alaska Department of Public Safety.

A new DNA profile for Pelkey was generated in August, and uploaded into a public geneaology database.

Pelkey, colloquially known for years as “Horseshoe Harriet,” was found dead April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake in the Matanuska-Susitna Borough. According to the release, records indicate that she had been living in Anchorage around the time when Hansen was active, and would have been 19 at the time of her murder.

Investigators found no record of her having been reported missing."

Victim of Alaska serial killer identified after 37 years

Robin Pelkey's thread:
 

The Coffeenator

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Coos Bay John Doe from 1971 has been identified as Winston Arthur Maxey III.

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"In 1971, Winston Arthur Maxey III left his home in Boise, Idaho, at the age of 15. After talking with a friend in Boise, Winston had learned there were job opportunities in Oregon and made a plan to hitchhike to the coast. He told his sister he was going to Coos Bay - and in the spring of 1971, 15-year-old Winston left home.
Family members reported they had never heard from Winston again, not knowing if he arrived in Oregon.

In July 1971, an unidentified deceased juvenile male was reported to the Coos County Sheriff’s Office in the Engelwood area of Snedden Creek in Coos Bay.

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The case remained open at the Sheriff’s Office, among several other cases that are periodically revisited when time, evidence or technology might allow for a breakthrough.

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In May 2021, Parabon Nanolabs was able to provide a DNA profile of the unidentified male. (...) In July 2021, Parabon Nanolabs provided a further report, able to identify the family and to identify a male from the Idaho area which matched the genealogy and ancestry history from the first profile."

 

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